Those Spiteful Atheists

Some stupidity like this is doing the rounds:

1) Being an atheist is okay. Being an atheist and shaming religions and spirituality as silly and not real is not okay

2) Being a Christian is okay. Being homophobic, misogynistic, racist or otherwise hateful person in the name of Christianity is not okay

3) Being a reindeer is okay. Bullying and excluding another reindeer because it has a shiny red nose is not okay

But Hold On

Atheists don’t generally shame spirituality and say it’s not real. Spirituality is a human emotional feeling that some humans have more than others; and some atheists are spiritual, though they don’t need a deity for that.

Atheists do say religion’s gods are not real, and that’s just as okay as believers saying their gods ARE real.

And, of course, when YOU the believer say YOUR god is real, and the only true god, then YOU are saying the gods of other religions are not real. And that’s okay?

These very different gods cannot be all real. So believers inherently deny the reality of all gods but theirs. So, this admonition aimed at atheists is hypocritical BS.

But let’s look a little closer at those words above and what they imply.

Is it okay to criticise those Christians that are homophobic, misogynistic,
racist? Of course it is. YOU just did it above. And do YOU think racism is shameful, or not?

Let’s look at another angle.

Point 2 seems reasonable, because it is criticising the persecution of people for what they are and cannot help being: homosexual, female, of a different ethnic origin. Point 3 is similarly aimed at people for what they are – the animal equivalent of fat-shaming, or bullying kids that need to wear glasses, or bulling people for being a bit further from the norm than most others.

But when you look at point 1, what is this ‘shaming’ really targeting? It’s targeting the ideas and beliefs that people hold. It’s targeting the religious based justification for homophobic, misogynistic, racist agendas.

Is that not okay?

If you think not, then you need to think twice when you post jokes that make fun of or shame Conservatives, or even Fascists. If ideas are not up for scrutiny then you’ve just shut down the whole debate of political ideas, including your own. YOU have taken on one of the most reprehensible
aspects of extremists ideologies – shutting up criticism.

What do you think those three points are meant to do, if not shame people into thinking cuddly nice religion deserves a free pass on criticism and ridicule for stupid ideas.

The bollocks above is based entirely on the religious demand for special privilege. If you think YOUR belief is that special it cannot be made fun of, then you are demanding a privilege that in all likelihood YOUR religious
belief does not live up to. Have you read the religious scriptures of most religions and how it doesn’t merely shame non-believers, but in many places predicts their eternal suffering in hell, or even demands their punishment, even their death, here on earth. And based on what? Some ancient texts written in totally ignorant times?

If you think some politicians are not making sense because they are not paying attention to reality, then most religions DESERVE shaming and ridicule, because they are based directly on myth and not on reality.

At least David Cameron isn’t going to Europe and arguing for changes in fishing quotas because Poseidon demands it.

And yet, those nice warn friendly Anglicans don’t deserve ridicule for their beliefs? Think again: Floods are judgment on society, say bishops.

Get over yourselves. Religion is stupid, and often shamefully homophobic, misogynistic, racist. The method of using faith to sustain your religious belief is exactly the same faith mechanism that religiously inspired terrorists use to sustain their belief in the most abhorrent scriptures of their religion.

2 thoughts on “Those Spiteful Atheists

  1. Lol another open mined atheist who knows better how religon influences me… Of course we are all blind… Since when being spiteful, equals to being logical? You always reserve yourselves right to criticise others, but you dont see anything wrong with your behaviour. Well putting it in such way, Hitler was very rational…

  2. Welcome.

    I don’t make any claim about how religion influences you. I don’t know you.

    I’m quite happy with being criticised. Present a case and we’ll discuss it.

    For example, in this instance you implied that I’m happy to criticise but don’t like being criticised in turn – but I’m telling you that’s not so. I’m not dismissing your point because I don’t like it but because it’s wrong. That’s how science advances, by being open to scrutiny, that’s why I don’t mind it.

    I’m sure Hitler was rational some of the time. You could even say that based on some premises he had (which were misconceptions) much of his behaviour was rational. Clearly some wasn’t – like figting a war on multiple fronts when he didn’t need to.

    The religious have ZERO evidence for their beliefs. For example, in order to accept that some god revealed something you have the presupposition, the premise, that there is such a god. If the revelation then tells you about that god and affirms his existence then that’s begging the question – a failure of rationality.

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